COLORADO, USA

The "No Wolf" Tamaskan fable

 
Pedigree Misrepresentation by Tamaskan "Founders
 
update 8/2/10

As was already stated in the "Resignation" page, it was shortly after our resignation from the TDR that we were approached by those familiar with the wolfdogs obtained to add to the Tamaskan lines.  Please visit http://the-no-wolf-tamaskan-fable.blogspot.com/ for complete information regarding this issue.   [8/2/10 - The above site has been updated this date in view of the revelation of the use of Saarloos Wolfdog with an F2 wolfdog in July 2009.]  Since the release of the Fable site, many  have come to us to thank us for presenting information that they can rely on.  While we realize that unless you have been involved with some time and are familiar with the lines, it can be confusing.  In short, there are several high content wolfdogs being bred and sold as the "no wolf" Tamaskan Dog. 

 

I'd like to share some comments received.  You see, while the TDR maintains its tirade and campaign against those of us that resigned, and others who have simply chosen not to become affiliated with them, the public deserves and has the right to have reliable and documented information upon which to mull over and make an informed decision.  And now, with DNA results, any doubt should be put to rest.

 

Received June 25, 2010 - I've just read your research about the Tamaskan dog and it has somehow made me change my mind. I was always a fan of wolves and I always wanted a dog resembling one. When I found out about the Tamaskan I was excited and seriously started thinking about getting one but then after I've read your article, which actually makes a lot of sense, I'm beginning to change my mind.  The thing is that I am an inexperienced dog owner but I am really keen on trying to do my best if I ever aquire a dog. I've already started doing plenty of research about it, about socialization, training, the pack system and everything. The thing is though, I want to have a dog that resembles a wolf but not to have any of the dangerous aspects of wolf/hybrid owning.  I've come accross the Czechoslovakian Wolfdog and from what I've read they are a recognised dog breed. But I guess that means they are more dog than wolf, while still having at least 20-30% wolf in them. Not that it concerns me, but I do have some questions and would really appreciate some serious advice if you can afford it. - M.Y. [Part of the response to this inquiry was just as is stated on the Fable site "Not ALL Tamaskan lines have wolfdog or Czech Wolfdog", and this party was advised of the wolfdog/CsV's being bred in the Tamaskan pedigree.]

 

Received June 24, 2010 - In reading the No Wolf Tamaskan Fable site, realizing the scope of all this was incredible and harrowing. With the photo album provided by the owner of Valko I browsed and found pictures of Henki, some of which were exactly the same as those on Blustag's site listed as Jodie, even today. With only the knowledge of Henki and Jodie being the same dog, everything else falls into place, which would mean that Valko must be Whitefang and Boogie and Blondie must be Ivan and Dixy, respectively. I'm glad that with the information that you provided I was able to find things out on my own, even before I read about them on the site links. I had always wondered why Jodie looked so wolfy whereas some of the other Tamaskans didn't in comparison. Now I know....Thank you. - C.W., California

 

Received June 11, 2010 - Hi there, I just wanted to drop you a quick email to say thank you for the hard work that obviously went into that website. [I] have owned a Tamaskan for 2.5yrs now.  I was an *** Officer at the time and wanted a dog that would fit into living in the Officers' Mess alongside a hundred other people and dogs.  I have always liked northern/arctic breeds but didn't want the high work rate that came with them. Having contacted Lynn I was assured that Tamaskans like Ute's and NI's were fantastically well tempered and of course very handsome. Much easier to live with than say a purebred husky.......which hasn't been the whole story.  DOG had, much like your site says about CsV's a 'difficult' adolescence, which resulted in a lot of damage to furniture.  We were unable to leave him alone until he reached 18 months. He did come to work with me every day but there are always days he needed to be left and this proved very difficult. So much for a consistent breed temperament and fore-warned is fore-armed etc...
 
From the very moment we went to pick up DOG, I was adamant that the woman was not to be trusted.  Her house was an absolute tip. Not just doggy but well past normal. Too many dogs and all caged and howling in a tiny house.  She herself was extremely aloof and couldn't get any facts about her dogs right. I had to tell her a few things she had put on the website.  The website and (joke) of a pedigree showed DOG as  being a Dingo - Susi puppy but she introduced us to two completely different dogs when we asked to see the parents. It also had conspicuous blanks where great grandparents should have been.  She made us sign a laughable contract; which of course was the first time anything like this had been discussed. That is to say, we had just driven 6 hrs to be informed that we could only take the puppy if we signed a contract. This had not been discussed prior to our trip
 
Not being a complete idiot, I could tell it wasn't worth the paper it was written on.  The same could be said of the pedigree.  Lynn was of no use whatsoever and clearly continued to mix up lineage of our dog.  A little investigation on my part then led me to believe that Dingo was in fact part CsV as was Susi (from the same dog in Finland). This was posted on a website by a Finnish man but the post was later removed from fear of legal action on Lynn's part.  DOG looks exactly (I know this isn't an exact science but what else could I go on at this point) like I would believe a CsV/Husky to look like. The markings on his coat and the red are pure CsV.  I love my dog to bits, was a little weary of his nature (which has proven to be very friendly and happy) and do not call him a Tamaskan. I tell the myriad of admirers that he is a Finnish Sled Dog instead. This is, I believe closer to the truth. Luckily, with a lot of hard work, exercise and training he has turned into a fantaastic dog.
 
We have had a few emails asking us to participate in Tamaskan events but I would rather pull my teeth out.
I do feel conned, I don't think Lynn has any idea about dog breeding whatsoever. I could not care less that she has been involved with dogs for forty years. She is clearly not the sort of person with the ability to create a new breed. It has been my belief for a long time that she has just been taking WolfDogs and CsV's and crossing them to make a Tamaskan.  That's why I was so pleased to find your website and I'm COMPLETELY convinced with your conclusions.  Her marketing is conning people. I have had a friend, tell me he is considering a Tamaskan recently, without  knowing that I have one.  She clearly stands to make a lot of money. Whilst, other far more honourable breeders are losing out.  Finally, the chances of a Tamaskan hurting someone and thus MY DOG becoming less than reputable worries me.  Sorry I have rambled on in no particular order but I'm annoyed with Lynn and very happy with your excellent work.  Please keep it up.
Best Regards, M...., UK

 

Received January 20, 2010 -http://theutonagansociety.com/health  According to TUS (Not sure if they are still active or not), Blustag has had several health issues pop up in there lines. Are they still using any of the same lines that once caused these health concerns? They are listed under Addison's Disease, Cryptorchidism, Epilepsy, and Von Willibrand's Disease. Not to mention, other lines such as Redkite and Sulin (known lines behind the Tamaskan) also seem to be listed under almost each of the health concerns. But truly, Redkite and Blustag seem to be listed the most.  Thanks [Many of Blustag's Foundation dogs are from Redkite breeding]

 

 

Received December 12, 2009 - Hi, I just found your website through google and must say that it's really a lot of info and for me (as a Tam newbie ^^) still a little confusing with all those names etc haha  You mentioned something about hip dysplasia and that two breeders got puppies from that sire so I wanted to ask you if they are still breeding with them? (knowing that they could have bad hips) For a newbie (like me) its pretty confusing and you dont really know who to believe but you've got so much info/evidence on your website thats why I thought it would be best to come to you and ask you that question instead of someone else. - K...

 

Received  November 24, 2009 - I'm not sure who you are, but you have alleviated A LOT of stress in my life, while bringing a mountain of it in a different form.We have a female dog from Right Puppy, born from an early 2008 litter of Moose (before he took up the puppy mill breeding).  We were under the impression that there was no wolf in her lineage.  Yet, after picking her up as a puppy and watching her grow and seeing how difficult and aggressive she can be my husband was certain that there was a lot of wolf in her.  We can't trust her around kids, we can't let her off lead and we have worked with this dog 24/7 from the time she was 6 weeks old!  We got kicked out of two dog parks for her fighting/aggressive nature, especially against submissive dogs.  She is intensely intelligent and learns instantly.  But unfortunetly, in her case, the intelligence works against us, in that she KNOWS her options and she rarely chooses to anything that doesn't suit her.  We cannot find a 'motivator' for her doing the right thing-- she is not motivated by food or by being told good/bad dog.  Play will often times motivate her to learn right from wrong, but that doesn't come into her consideration when its a serious situation.  She IS good with cats, ferrets, kids (like they claim)  but what they don't say is that its ONLY ones that she was raised with and she now considers 'pack'.  She also tests for dominance quite often.  She 'stalks' other dogs, cats, even kids.  We are trying to train this behavior out of her, but its difficult.  Basically, we got what we thought was a wolf looking dog but WITHOUT wolf and it turns out not to be the case at all.  I'm worried because I know how difficult my dog can be and Right Puppy is now breeding these dogs from the same lines at about a rate of 20 litters a year, so I see that there can be NO way that other households are able to deal with a dog with this kind of nature.  We have the capability right now to be able to take the hours with her every single day to try to turn her into a great dog, but I sure wish I had known before bringing this dog into my home.  I love her with all my heart and I have to do what is right by her, but it worries me for her future (as wolfdogs are not allowed in my state) and also for the future of other puppies from Moose that will find themselves in a home not quite as able to accomodate the wolf-type behavior that is characteristic of this line.  Thank you for making some sense of it all for me.  While it is not good news, at least my thoughts are verified and we are armed with more information for her future. - A.M. [Moose is out of Tumanra, an F3 wolfdog at worse case.]

 

Received November 10.2009 = Thank you so much!  I dont write in English, but I have to do it now. My husband can help me later.  We have a dog named *** (Summers brother) here in Finland. His father is Whitefa g. I have even asked before if Valko and Whitefang are the same dogs. Lynn and Alexa (Valkos owner) both said its not! [Alexa's photo album posts shows otherwise]  We have serious problems with ****. Its most wonderful dog to familiar people but it try to bite foreign.  It also is a very shy dog. Situations in which **** has bitten the human being its very different. It seems that it wants to expel all the other people and dogs away and to be with an own herd. Luck has been that it only bites and does not tear up. We dont any more trust it at all.  However we love it enormously and **** would never do nothing to own people. Now I must leave for work. I am so surprised that somebody dares to write about these matters publicly. One must say that no matter came as a surprise to me. We have two really dear beautiful dogs at home in spite of all. - A.P. 

 

12/30/10 - Sadly, despite being caught with their pants down, the continued misrepresentations about UK Tamaskan pedigrees continue by the TDR and its affiliates, they continue to malign, disparage and spread lies about others who have chosen to be honest and separate from them, and wolfdog pups are still being sold as "no wolf content Tamaskans".

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